Seems like I've heard a lot of Andy Mills in my podcast feed the past couple of months, but much of this was new and informative. A good interview, thank you.
"Who would have predicted we would be listening to podcasts ten years ago". Seriously.
10+ years ago, no job, no MD, borderline disabled, hopeless: "Okay, let's check out this Twitter thing. I barely have money to take the Metro downtown, but at least this app is free. Hey, let's get all the free speech and civil liberties people. ACLU? Follow. Washington Post? Check. But who's this other character who keeps popping up? Says she's an ex-Muslim activist, but I doubt it. Doesn't look old enough to be an activist really; hard to take this one seriously. Probably should reserve my attention for more important people. Oh, whatever, she keeps popping up, let's click that one too."
10 years later, post grad school, post med school, post activist, world traveler, living the high life, working as a doctor during a pandemic: "ACLU? Dead to me. Washington Post? My grandfather who used to write for them would be rolling in his grave. Ex-Muslim activist girl quit her ex-Muslim activism and now wants to spend hours devoted to trashing my country, my profession, and my gender, and is now charging money for it? And she still looks like a child? Sign me up!"
"[Q-anon] are just the most obvious version of what's happening to all my friends." -- I feel this very, very strongly. And this comment on keyboard warriors is interesting, it's such an old term that serves as a descriptor, as Andy says, but it can still be seen as so offensive. I observed the breakdown of the anti-Scientology online movement and using the term "keyboard warriors" about people who were exactly that and were doing "cancellation campaigns" (for lack of a better term) to activists and cult survivors was seen as beyond the pale. But what they were doing was seeking meaning that came from these (ultimately) meaningless battles that did nothing for the greater cause.
Here's another theory. People need support. Will the NYTimes stand behind its reporters through thick and thin? Is it still powerful enough to do that in the current environment of journalism?
[The later part of the conversation bolsters this view.]
P.S. Fiinally somebody else in the world thinks maybe James Bennett shouldn't have been fired.
What are comment sections for if not a bit of whining? As an audio professional, I promise I'm usually pretty good at saying people's names right, this egregious example not withstanding. My true flaw is horrible misspelling.
Excellent interview. The backstory of tumult in the NYT newsroom circa 2020* is an endless source of fascination.
I would like to think I'm slightly more optimistic than Mills about the heterodox community avoiding audience capture. I think the perversion for nuance is very robust.
From what I can tell, the whole concept of "audience capture" has recently become a groundless article of faith among the SJW Left. It seems to mean "how dare you not agree with us, you're just being captured by your MAGA-adjacent audience and replicating conservative orthodoxy."
Ideally, the term will disappear in due course.
* I would imagine we will never again see a perfect storm of a worldwide pandemic and George Floyd.
Daum conflates the NIH and NHS in this episode. NIH is an American government agency that does research. They only provide medical care to a small number of people as part of research trials. NHS is the British public healthcare service.
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I hear that timeliness is part of white supremacy culture.
Not sure how this will make you feel, but it was my first time trying. Beginners luck?
U did it!!!!
*doff cap*
Sometimes I resent my parasocial friends, and they don’t even notice
Seems like I've heard a lot of Andy Mills in my podcast feed the past couple of months, but much of this was new and informative. A good interview, thank you.
"Who would have predicted we would be listening to podcasts ten years ago". Seriously.
10+ years ago, no job, no MD, borderline disabled, hopeless: "Okay, let's check out this Twitter thing. I barely have money to take the Metro downtown, but at least this app is free. Hey, let's get all the free speech and civil liberties people. ACLU? Follow. Washington Post? Check. But who's this other character who keeps popping up? Says she's an ex-Muslim activist, but I doubt it. Doesn't look old enough to be an activist really; hard to take this one seriously. Probably should reserve my attention for more important people. Oh, whatever, she keeps popping up, let's click that one too."
10 years later, post grad school, post med school, post activist, world traveler, living the high life, working as a doctor during a pandemic: "ACLU? Dead to me. Washington Post? My grandfather who used to write for them would be rolling in his grave. Ex-Muslim activist girl quit her ex-Muslim activism and now wants to spend hours devoted to trashing my country, my profession, and my gender, and is now charging money for it? And she still looks like a child? Sign me up!"
What a strange world we live in.
"[Q-anon] are just the most obvious version of what's happening to all my friends." -- I feel this very, very strongly. And this comment on keyboard warriors is interesting, it's such an old term that serves as a descriptor, as Andy says, but it can still be seen as so offensive. I observed the breakdown of the anti-Scientology online movement and using the term "keyboard warriors" about people who were exactly that and were doing "cancellation campaigns" (for lack of a better term) to activists and cult survivors was seen as beyond the pale. But what they were doing was seeking meaning that came from these (ultimately) meaningless battles that did nothing for the greater cause.
Excellent interview.
Great interview. Meghan asking just the right questions to create something fresh. Thanks.
Great conversation, great guest.
Here's another theory. People need support. Will the NYTimes stand behind its reporters through thick and thin? Is it still powerful enough to do that in the current environment of journalism?
[The later part of the conversation bolsters this view.]
P.S. Fiinally somebody else in the world thinks maybe James Bennett shouldn't have been fired.
I’m listening to reflector now. Maybe this will fill the NPR shaped hole in my heart.
Great podcast, butt I'm only here to whine. It drove me crazy to hear Andy repeatedly say Aproova instead of Apoorva.
What are comment sections for if not a bit of whining? As an audio professional, I promise I'm usually pretty good at saying people's names right, this egregious example not withstanding. My true flaw is horrible misspelling.
Well, I misspelled but on phone, so we're probably even, all apologies to Apoorva.
Excellent interview. The backstory of tumult in the NYT newsroom circa 2020* is an endless source of fascination.
I would like to think I'm slightly more optimistic than Mills about the heterodox community avoiding audience capture. I think the perversion for nuance is very robust.
From what I can tell, the whole concept of "audience capture" has recently become a groundless article of faith among the SJW Left. It seems to mean "how dare you not agree with us, you're just being captured by your MAGA-adjacent audience and replicating conservative orthodoxy."
Ideally, the term will disappear in due course.
* I would imagine we will never again see a perfect storm of a worldwide pandemic and George Floyd.
Daum conflates the NIH and NHS in this episode. NIH is an American government agency that does research. They only provide medical care to a small number of people as part of research trials. NHS is the British public healthcare service.
It was a slip of the tongue. I meant NHS, obviously.
Of course, just a small cognitive lapse. No one is asking you to step down and appoint your younger, browner Vice Podcaster to replace you.
Lol
We've scheduled a presser for you tomorrow afternoon
5th?
Dang it!!!
First!!
Literally typing those exclamation points is what cost you.
Overconfident after my recent winning streak:(